1. Do a rough sketch of the situation, using symbols you have chosen. It helps
both you and the marker.
2. Derive relationships between physical quantities (equations). In other words,
solve the problem.
3. Check units in the most important equations.
This step is life-saving in case you made a mistake in step 1.
4. Substitute numerical values to evaluate the answers, remembering to
first convert constants and inputs to a common system of units: SI (or cgs,
if you want to impress astrophysicists.) Do not hurry to do this
before step 4 - it's a common source of mistakes. Besides, it's always
inelegant and sometimes inefficient, as the symbolic manipulation of expressions
can lead to simplifications or variable cancellation before step 4.
5. Think if your results are plausible. You may know the plausible range of physical
quantities you compute, or if you don't, maybe can do an order-of-magnitude estimate.
Clearly, if (let's say) you get a temperature inside the star equal to a fraction
of 1 K, or 1e+23 K, then something's wrong. Maybe a missing constant or wrong units.
Go back to step 2 if needed.
6. This step is somewhat optional. If you have time, then try to
find an alternative way of solving the
problem, as it is a fantastic cross-check on your result. It's unlikely to obtain
two very similar results, both wrong, using different methods.
Alas, during the exam there may be too little time for this.
7. Write your solution legibly. As you write down equations, now and then interject
a comment on what you do. (For instance: "I substitute eq. 1 into eq. 2, then find X".)
Although we sometimes seem to have the ability to read your mind,
we usually don't. We may guess wrongly and misunderstand your work, or worse -- start
having doubts that this is your original work.
0 = Δ(M xM + m xm) = M ΔxM + m Δxm.
The coordinates of the box and the mass m shift during the experiment by: ΔxM = -E/(cM) Δt, and Δxm = c Δt, accordingly. Therefore
0 = -(E/c) Δt + m c Δt
or simplifying:
E = m c2.
I thought that you can deliver this derivation of the most famous science formula by Albert Einstein in under one minute. In the tutorial however I tried to explain everything in such a detail that it took at least 5 minutes.
There is an anecdote about how Einstein was passing his Habilitation exam
(for the highest academic degree in Germany and other countries parts even these days):
- Dr. Einstein, could you please derive the formula E = m c2?
- I'm sorry I did not memorize the derivation, but I know exactly on which shelve I can
find the book it's in. (Today, he might say "..but I can google it up for you" :-)
Einstein always stressed that there is no need to memorize trivial facts, they can be found in books.
American inventor Thomas Edison was of a different opinion.. but that's a different story.
SOLUTION
The equation found in step 3, following from two triangles being similar, reads
(1 - 2.6 RM/RE) = (RS/RE -1) dM/dS = (RS/RE -1) RM/RS
because dM/dS = RM/RS from equality of angular sizes of Moon and Sun during total solar eclipse
(step 1).
Expanding the r.h.s., we have after a simplification
3.6 RM/RE = 1 + RM/RS = 1 + α = 1 +1/396 ≈ 1
or
RM = RE/3.6 = 1770 km (1/3.6 of Eratosthenes's RE = 6366 km)
BTW, the approximation we made was valid, because we know from step 2 that deviation from 90 degrees of the angle between M & S during an exact half-Moon phase is very small, α ≪ 1. In fact α and its sine function are both approximately equal to 9 arcminutes (expressed in radians).
Next, knowing the angular size of the Moon (diameter 2φ = 0.5331°
on average) it is straightforward to obtain the distance to the Moon
dM = RM/ tan φ ≈ RM/ φ = 382600 km.
This is an important milestone, since we just need one more observation of angle α in order to get the all-important value of AU, the mean Sun-Earth distance. The small angle equals 9' (9 arcminutes), which after conversion to radians (you should know how to convert!) yields
AU = dS = dM / α = 382600 km / (9/60 π/180) = 149.2 mln km.
Not a bad precision, as it is 149.5 mln km in reality (in time-average sense).
SOLUTION
In problem related to fluxes, we can draw an imaginary sphere (of radius r = 1 AU in this case) and compute its surface area. Flux times area = power emitted by a star in watts, a.k.a. bolometric luminosity.
Lsun = 4 π r2 F = 3.86e26 W.
E2 = (mc2)2 + (pc)2 where c = speed of light, p = momentum, E = total energy
This allows the following proof that pressure P is (2/3) of spatial energy density (energy of motion divided by the volume) of normal non-relativistic gas (atomic motion at v ≪ c), and (1/3) of spatial energy density of the ultra-relativistic particles (including as a limiting case photons). In the latter case the velocity v is either very, very, close to or exactly equal to c, when rest mass m = 0 (e.g., photons).
The proof goes like this but you don't need to memorize it, just understand well the result.
Take a volume of a cube of side length L, and place N particles bouncing around in the box with momentary velocity vectors (v_x,v_y,v_z). We'll estimate the push of the gas on one chosen wall of the cube. An individual particle bouncing around the cube keeps the same component of the velocity perp. to the wall, e.g., v_z, if our wall is in XY plane.
Frequency of bouncing off 1 particular wall is 1/(2L/vz), corresponding to time period 2L/vz, because the particle covers distance 2L between the bounces, in z-direction. The amount of momentum given to the wall in each bounce is 2 p_z (it would be 1 p_z if the particle got stuck in the wall, instead of elastically bouncing, or in case of photons being re-emitted in a mirror-like way).
Force of pressure is the rate of change of momentum of the wall, F = N * frequency * (2 pz) = N/L < vz pz > where I have added the averaging signs to remind me that not all values of v_z and p_z are equal for N different particles. P = F / L2 (pressure) P = n < vz pz >, where n = N/L3 = number density of gas, that is the # of particles per unit volume.
Now **vectors** v and p are always parallel, so we can replace the dot product by the
product of lengths of vectors, and write
< v p > = < vx px + vy py
+ v_z pz > = < vx px >
+ < vy py > + < vz pz >.
But all three directions are equivalent, so < vx px > =
< vy py > = < vz pz > =
(1/3) < v p>.
Therefore, in physics we always have this expression for pressure
of a gas of particles
P = (n/3) < v p >.
Here, to understand how much < v p > is, we finally will use our two separate cases:
1. Non-relativistic particles:
v ≪ c, E ~ mc2 + p2/(2m) = mc2
+ (1/2)mv2 = rest energy + translational motion energy (kinetic en.),
p = mv, and < v p > = < v mv > = m < v2 > =
twice the thermal energy of an average particle.
P = (n/3) < p v > = (2/3) (thermal energy / volume).
2. Ultra-relativistic particles, like a gas of photons:
v = c, while
E = p c is the translational motion energy, and p = E/c
< v p > = < c E/c > = E = thermal energy of a particle
P = (n/3) < v p > = (1/3) (thermal energy / volume).
This difference by a factor 2 in the two cases is going to be important. For now, the preceding explains why energy of photon gas per unit volume, equal to (aT4), is a factor of 3 different from the radiation pressure of photon gas, (aT4/3). Here "a" is a radiation constant. Photons have zero mass and are as relativistic as one can be. By the way, check that pressure and energy density have the same units!
Solution:
All the symbols x_i or xi here are i-th vectors (not vector components), and * means the dot product of those vectors.
x = x1 + x2 + ... + xN
averge (over all possible orientations of vectors, which are random by
assumption) of a sum is a sum of the averages. I'll denote averages as squre
brackets
[x] = [x1] + [x2] + ... + [xN] = 0 + 0 + ... + 0 = 0
this just means that a clouds of points spreads out in time, always centered on
zero (starting point). What's non-zero and actually grows with the length of walk
is the always positive length of vector sum x. It's computed as square root of
x*x. The mean squared value is:
[|x|^2] = [x*x]
let's write out x*x, using the above sum, term by term, as
x*x = x1*x1 + x2*x2 + ... + xN*xN + (these definitely don't vanish)
+x1*x2 + x1*x3 + ... + x1*xN +
+x2*x1 + x2*x3 + ... + x2*xN + .... (all these cross-terms vanish).
Why do dot products of different vectors vanish? Recall that the dot product is a product of lengths times the cosine of the angle between vectors. With large enough number of randomly oriented pairs of vectors, every cos(angle) will have a pair very closely representing one of the vectors having a switched direction. In the limit of infinite number of steps, cancellation of contributions will become perfect. (Directions of vectors do not even need to be uniformly distributed on the sphere, just bi-symmetrically!).
Since [x_i * x_i] = L2 for all i, the sum averages over all
possible directions of x_i's to
[x*x] = [x1*x1] + [x2*x2] + ... + [xN*xN] = L2 + L2 + ...
= N L2.
The square-root of this is called standard deviation or r.m.s-distance (remainder mean square distance). It has unit of length and value N1/2 L. this quantity characterizes the half-width of the cloud of photons or drunkards, or diffusing molecules of perfume.
The significance the result is this: whereas a straight-line travel distance increases linearly with N, the expected distance (dispersion) of random walk grows much slower, ~N1/2. For an average diffusing photon to reach distance τ L from the center, it needs to make τ2 steps of random walk, which takes very much longer than to cover that same distance as the crow flies.
For instance, leaving a radius-100 obstacle course (obstacle spacing = 1) requires as many as N=100*100=10000 random-walk steps, on average. It isn't clear if a person under the influence can physically make that many steps..
Does our result depend on dimensionality of space? No. Check the derivation! How would the random walk on a plane (2-D walk) look vs. the 3-d walk. Would the r.m.s. distance be different after N steps? It would be more-dimensional but reaching to the same squared distance, on average. Is the textbook right when it discusses the influence of dimensionality on the average distance reached in a random walk after N steps? No. Was Einstein wrong? Probably not, someone misqueted something from his work, I think. [The book claims he proved a formula with a factor (1/3) that we do not find.]
It derives the relation between the volume-averaged pressure <P>
and the gravitational energy of a star,
Egrav = ∫[-G m(r)/r] dm.
<P> = (-1/3) Egrav/V
where V is the volume of the object. In other words, mean pressure is (-1/3) of
the mean gravitational energy density of the object in hydrostatic equilibrium.
The negative coefficient should not surprise us, gravitationally bound objects like
stars have negative Egrav, so the pressure in them is positive.
Remember that we earlier proved that
<P> = (n/3) <p v>
= (2/3) of mean thermal energy density of the star =
(2/3) Eth/V.
even if we did not care to explicitly put averaging brackets around P.
Eliminating the mean pressure from the two equations, we obtain
2 Eth = - Egrav
This proves one of the forms of the Virial theorem. The other two follow, if we invoke the total energy E = Eth + Egrav. Kinetic energy is the same as thermal energy, because we consider an object with no net momentum, so there is no ordered component of the kinetic energy. After simple algebra, we find:
Eth = - E
or
E = (1/2) Egrav □
This was a quiz for the break between one lecture and tutorial. We did not discuss the solutions though.
SOLUTION
A previous hydrostatic balance of gravity and pressure forces
will be perturbed in the energy-producing core.
The inner core will cool rapidly (because its very small; it's hard to say exactly
how quickly without more detailed considerations, but certainly much much quicker
than the long diffusion time of photons through the whole star).
Probably one day would be enough, rather than thousands of years necessary
for random-walk diffusion (straight-line travel time at the speed of light is
2.33s, but random walk takes τ ~ 1011 times longer, i.e. 7400 years).
A wave of decompression will move with the speed of sound toward the surface. If, as we shall show in the next tutorials, pressure and density are directly depending on each other like P ~ ργ (gamma being the so-called adiabatic index, normally 5/3), then
vs2 = dP/dρ = γ P/ρ = γ kT/(μmH)
This is (2/3)γ of the mean thermal energy per unit mass of gas. We could now just substitute the estimated virial temperature of 10 mln K.
I will give you a longer (-: way to get the value of vs.
The virial theorem says that the thermal energy of the whole star
(3/2 kT M/μmH) equals -1/2 or the gravitational binding energy of a star,
let's say -αGM2/R, with α being some
nondimensional number of order 1, so we can alternatively write the average
soundspeed as
vs2 ≈ (1/3) γ α GM/R = (γ α/6)
vesc2.
We used the fact that the escape speed from
the surface of the star follows from: vesc2 =2 GM/R.
The average soundspeed is somewhat smaller than the escape speed,
which for the sun is about vesc = 620 km/s.
Suppose that γ=5/3 and α=1/3. Then
vs ≈ 0.3 vesc ≈ 190 km/s.
The time of travel of a decompression wave is just about
R/vs≈ 0.7e6 km/ 190 km/s ≈ 3700 s ≈ 1 hour, which is
likely shorter than the cooling time of the inner core.
Observing big oscillation of the solar surface, we would notice the effects of the purely hypothetical sudden cessation of nuclear reactions much sooner (whithin a day?) than after the diffusion time of photons. That latter, incorrect, timescale can be found in some books as an answer to the problem's question.
Example1 :
Vertical fall of an object (with no air friction) is follwing two
simultaneous ODES: (1) dv/dt = -g = const. (Galileo's
law of gravity near earths surface), and (2) dz/dt = v (kinematical relationship).
A sketch will show that v varies from v(0)=0 at time t=0, to some final negative
speed v(T), at time t=T. The distance decreases from z=H to zero after time T.
What is the approximate solution of those equations? It can be found
approximation the derivatives slopes of assumed linear graphs, e.g.,
dv/dt = Δv/Δt ≈ [v(T) - v(0)]/(T - 0) = v(T)/T < 0.
Which simplifies (1) to the approximate form v(T)/T = -g, or v(T) = -gT.
Similarly, in eq. (2) we replace the l.h.s. derivative by a ratio of
differences, dz/dt ≈ (0-H)/(T-0) = -H/T, and replace variable v(t)
on the r.h.s. by its estimate equal to (1/2)v(T), halfway between v(0)
and v(T). We get -H/T ≈ -gT/2.
From this we obtain the following scaling of height with the time of flight:
H = gT2/2.
In this example, we happened to obtain the exact relationship for
freefall, coincided with the honest solution of the set of ODEs.
That's because the set had very simple right-hand sidesi
and v(t) was indeed changing linearly, as we assumed.
But, in a more general case, the numerical coefficients we get will
not be so accurate. Scaling laws such as H ~ T2 will always
be correct.
In stellar structure equations, we use the linear approximation to first order derivatives. We'd also replace ρ by its mean value M/volume or, if we just want to obtain correct proportionalities and not necessarily correct coefficients, by ρ ≈ M/R3, which has a ~4 times higher value than the mean density.
x = hν/kT = (hc/k)/(λ T)
That's the exponent x in the fraction that looks like 1/[ex -1]. Some power of x is also multiplying this factor. When we try to find the peak of radiation spectrum, say, as a function of λ, we equate to zero the derivative of Plank function over λ and get a condition obeyed by x, which is not a nice equation (we can't solve it analytically). We need to solve it on the calculator or computer, by bisection or just by trial and error. We find *some* concrete value of xpeak at the peak of radiation, a nondim. number of order 1. The definition of x then results in Wien's law:
λ = (hc/kxpeak) T = (1K / T) 0.29 cm
For instance, T = 2.9K of the cosmic background radiation yields the peak of radiation at 1 mm wavelength. Indeed we call the cosmic background the cosmic *microwave* background radiation.
Another example. Plugging in the temperature the sun (i.e., effective surface temperature T = 5780K), we get the peak wavelength λ = (hc/kx) T = 0.5 μm, right in the middle of the visible radiation range. That's of course not a coincidence, as animal eyes have evolved to see the wavelengths near the peak of the solar spectrum.
| object |
r |
ρw |
λfree |
________________________________________
| clouds | 5 μm | 0.26 g/m3 |
?? |
| fog | 8 μm | 0.06 g/m3 |
?? |
________________________________________
Complete the table by computing the mean free path of photons in the medium. Compute the average mean free path of photons inside the star (sun).
SOLUTION
Radiation transport in a parallel-ray beam is described by
dF = - F dτ = - F κ ρw dx.
The solution by separation of variables (all terms with F to the l.h.s),
all containing x on the r.h.s.) is
F = F0 exp[-∫0x κ ρw dx] =: F0 exp[-τ] .
What is the opacity coefficient κ in case of water droplets?
The ratio of total cross-sectional area to total mass of droplets in a given volume.
But that ratio is the same for one or for many droplets, so let's calculate it
for one droplet of radius r:
κ = π r2 / [(4/3)π r3
ρH2O]
where
ρH2O = 1000 kg/m3 is the density
of liquid water.
κ = 3 / (4r ρH2O)
Units of kappa are ok, m2/kg.
Values of mean free path
λfree = 1/(κ ρw)
are about 35m in clouds, and about 120m in dense fog.
A typical cloud layer might be 350 m thick. The optical depth is simply τ(clouds) = 350/35 = 10. Direct sunlight passing through a cloud is suppressed by a factor exp(-10) ~ 4.5e-5 after passage through the cloud. Why is it NOT getting very dark every time the sun hides behind a cloud? Because small water droplets efficiently remove the sun's photons from the beam but do not absorb them strongly. They scatter sun rays sideways and after multiple scattering (random walk inside the cloud) most light rays are getting out of the cloud in all possible directions. The day may be darker but definitely not e10 times darker!
A fog layer may be somewhat thinner geometrically, perhaps 240m, and also thinner optically, τ = 240m/120m = 2. Exponential function exp(-2) = 0.135 ≪ 1. *Direct* light rays are suppressed but not very strongly, one order of magnitude in brightness/flux. That's why we can often still see the silhouette of the sun through the fog (or thin clouds of various kinds for that matter).
Inside the sun it's much foggier/cloudier. Minimum opacity is from Thomson
scattering off free electrons in ionized gas,
κTh = 0.4 cm2/g. It's not easy to decide what to
take for the density of gas, the central density or the mean density perhaps.
They differ by two orders of magnitude.
One usually quotes the mean density 1.4 g/cm3, then
λfree = 1cm/(0.4 * 1.4) ~ 2 cm. But in reality
λfree changer a lot from place to place,
from much smaller than 2cm in the core of a star to much larger, near the
photosphere (eventually photons are freed to travel in space, the
mean free path is becoming infinite beyond the photosphere radius;
the optical thicknass τ counted from photosphere to infinty is about 1,
or if you want to be very precise and define photosphere as 50% chance of
getting out, then τ obeys e-τ = 1/2, i.e. τ =
ln 2 = 0.693).
The virial theorem says that the gas temperature inside the sun must be of order T ~ 10 million kelvin. We compared two energies of a proton as it enounters another proton in such plasma; electrostatic potential energy & the mean thermal energy.
To approach and touch another proton, at which point we might expect
that the short-ranged strong forces take over and lead to a
fusion of two protons, we need to supply energy
Epot = +A e2 /
(2 rp),
where e = +1.6e-19 C is the electric charge of the proton, and A is
a constant: A = 1/(4πε) = 9e9 J m/C2. Radius
of a proton is rp = 0.83 fm.
In fact, four protons need to meet, to somehow convert to one alpha particle =
nucleus of helium harboring two protons and two neutrons. In the reaction chain
called pp reaction chain, 2 antielectrons called positrons, plus 2 electron
neutrinos, are released.
But if we show that 2 protons p+ cannot touch each other then there is
no need to follow the more complicated scenario of the multi-step synthesis of
helium.
See this clickable image
We have thus shown that electrostatic energy barrier exceeds the sum of the thermal energies of protons several hundred times. A typical proton stops and turns back to depart from p+ without coming closer than r = several hundered rp. The probability of having energy above E is proportional to exp(-E/kT), where the value of the exponent runs in the hundreds. It isn't enough that in a Maxwell velocity distribution we can occasionally find protons with high kinetic energy. Exceeding the electrostatic energy barrier happens with a vanishingly small probability. Even if all protons approach other protons simulatneously, there won't even be 1 themonuclear conversion of H nucleus into He nucleus. Therefore, we cannot exist □
Now prove that the quantum mechanics literally saves the day, allowing a p-p merger, based on the fact that particle in quantum mechanics are delocalized, i.e. fuzzy (described by a cloud of probability, high in the center but exponentially rapidly vanishing at large r).
Assume that the size of the cloud representing a proton has
radius Δx and that the uncertainty of its momentum is of order of
its linear momentum itself, call it Δp ~ p.
Protons in the sun-like star are not ultrarelativistic so $p=mv$.
(This can be checked separately, comparing kT with mc2.
Show that uncertainty relation which connects the position and momentum
uncertainties
Δx Δp ≥ h
h = 6.626e34 J s (Planck's constant).
Show that $Delta;x is of order 1e3 times rp, i.e. the
overlap of quantum particles is not at all unlikely. You may assume that
you know the temperature in sun's core from virial argument, or from
detailed models, T = 15 mln K.
SOLUTION
Energy of an averge proton is mv2/2 = (3/2) kT, so
Δx ≥ h/√ (3 k T m)
Where m = mass of proton = 1.67e-27 kg. Units can be ckecke to agree, x is in meters. Δx numerically is much larger than 2rp = 1.7 fm, in fact some 400(?, I seem to rmember you telling me this number) times larger. This means that there is a fairly large overlap between the quntum-delocalized protons during their close encounter. In other words, internally they may be of approximate radius 0.84 fm, but the position of theor center can in actual experiment appear anywhere within a radius that is hundreds of time larger. This explains why the sun can shine. Quantum tunneling was first proposed as a solution to the hydrogen fusion paradox by George Gamov in Soviet U., and independently soon afterwards in America.
See this clickable images
Oh shoot! The pictures were a disaster, it's my slightly damaged iphone.
Fell from car's rooftop where I left it ;-( onto the pavement during driving
this summer, lost the protective plastic in front of the lens and
right now decided to get foggy or unfocused.
Fortunately, one problem was solved here explicity in this file, and the
other (below) was part of set 2 of assignments, and as such is solved in appropriate
file linked to our course page.
Use the known connection between pressure P and the energy density U/V of gas to arrive at two different γ values in an adiabatic (dQ=0, no exchange of heat) gas change law, also sometimes called isentropic law, because dQ = 0 implies constant entropy. The experiment can be thought of as a gas cylinder with movable piston, filled with a const. mass of particles. Piston moves by dL, A=cross section area, therefore dV = A dL.
P ~ ργ.
We know that P = q U/V from previous meetings. q = 2/3 for nonrelativistic gas, and 1/3 for ultrarelativistic. The difference is in the kinematics of particles, they hit the walls less often in the ultra-rel. case bacause they can't move faster than light.
dU/U + q dV/V = 0
Integration gives
ln UVq = const.
Substituting P ~ U/V or U ~ PV, we get
P ~ V-(1+q) ~ ργ
where γ = 1 + q = 5/3 in normal gas, and 4/3 in ultra-relativistic gas. q.e.d.
The momentum space is spanned by three axes, px, py, and pz. Uncertainties in these variables combine to Δpx Δpy Δpz = (h/L)(h/L)(h/L) = h3/V. So says the quantum mechanics (to be consistent with Heisenberg's uncertainty relation, in each dimension Δx Δp ≥ h/2).
So when we draw the distribution of N particles in 3-d momentum space, it consistes of a large number elementary unit cells of volume h3/V each. Every cell has zero, one or maximum two particles, let's say electrons. Two is a maximum, when we pack one spin-up and one spin-down particle into a momentum cell. What's a spin? It is an intrinsic angular momentum of a particle, electrin has a 1/2 spin which can either be "down" or "up" and up-down pair of electrons differs in that spin orientation quantum number, so two two particles are distingushable by spin direction and can co-exist in one momentum-space cell. OK?
Then as we add more and more particles to volume V, they occupy first the cells near p=0 center of the space, but then gradually more and more distant empty cells. For N ≫ 1 we get a ball of cells accupied each by 2 particles. (Why a ball and not e.g. a cube?)
Let's say that particle on the surface of the ball, those with maximum momentum value, have p = pF, the so-called Fermi momentum. That's the radius of the ball in momentum space, in other words. The number of particles N equals the volume of the ball divided by the volume of an elementary cell (h3/V), times 2 for 1 up and 1 down spin particle in each momentum cell.
N = 2V h-3 (4π/3)pF3
n = N/V = (8π/3)h-3 pF3
pF ~ n1/3.
So far so good. If we increase the number density n by a factor of 8, Fermi momentum will double. Now let's see how that affects the pressure P.
In nonrelativistic gas, P is (2/3) of the energy density (which is total kinetic energy devided by V). And the total energy is just N times the mean value of p2/(2m), since that's how we can express kinetic energy mv2/2 of a particle of mass m. In a ball of radius pF, the mean value of p2 can be computed like so:
<p2> = [∫ (4π p2) p2 dp] /
[∫ (4πp2) dp]
The integrals are from 0 to pF, and (4π p2) dp
is the volume element in 3-d momentum space (surface of a thin shell
of radius p, times its thickness dp).
The average <p2> =
(3/5) pF2 (convince yourself by doing the simple
calculation). Therefore the total kinetic energy of N particles is
equal (3N/5) pF2/(2m), and the
degeneracy pressure, being 2/3 of energy density, is
P = (2/5) n pF2/(2m)
Since the inverse of mass m is almost 2000 times larger for electrons than for protons, while their number densities n are comparable in stars, we can neglect the contribution to degeneracy pressure from protons, and only consider the degeneracy pressure of electron gas.
Earlier we established that pF ~ n1/3, therefore the electron degeneracy pressure scales with their number density like
P ~ n1+2/3 ~ n5/3.
E = p c
for every ultrarelativistic particle. Reminder: particles are ultrarelativistic their energy of motion much exceeds the rest energy mc2. The classical mechanics formula E = p2/(2m) no longer applies.
The energy density of relativistic gas can be computed as N times c times the mean momentum <p>, which by integration similar to the one done above becomes <p> = [∫ (4π p2) p dp] / [∫ (4πp2) dp] = (3/4) pF (convince yourself by doing that calculation).
This modifies the final result of the ultrarel. case to:
P ~ n1+1/3 ~ n4/3.
(1/ρ) dP/dr = -GM(r)/r2
taking into account P~ργ, gives
(M/R3)γ-1 ~ M/R
Mγ-2 ~ R3γ-4.
This is an important scaling, and it is the same for degenerate or non-degenerate adiabatic objects that also obey P~ργ.
For instance, adiabatic objects such as super-jovian planets
may have γ ≈ 2. Then R = const. follows. They are the largest
globes of gas not undergoing thermonuclear reactions.
Adding more mass to such objects results in γ <
2 and approaching 5/3. Then, like for nonrelativistic White Dwarfs,
R ~ M-1/3.
Radius decreases slowly with increasing mass in such objects.
The density of object increases rapidly with M.
That's what Ralph Fowler and Subrahmanian Chandrasekhar
found around 1930 by combining the astrophysics and quantum physics
of dense gas. Chandrasekhar on his long journey to England by steam ship
also discovered that as the gas becomes dominated by particles moving practically
at the speed of light, radius R shrinks faster and faster with increase of M,
and eventually, when γ becomes equal to 4/3, the mass cannot exceed
M = const. (substitute γ=4/3 into the scaling relation to see this!).
The so-called Chandrasekhar mass is the limiting mass white dwarfs can have.
If you add more mass to a white dwarf, it loses stability and
initially implodes rapidly, then bounces back to explode as a
supernova type Ia.
1. Sun, M = 1 Msun, R = 700000 km
2. White dwarf, M = 1 Msun, R = 10000 km
3. Neutron star, M = 2 Msun, R = 11 km
What is the gravitational (red)shift Δλ
= λ - λ0
Judge the observabily of gravitational redshift, assuming that today
the best spectrographs have resolving power
δλ/λ0 ~ 10-6.
SOLUTION
λ = λ0 / [1 - 2GM/(Rc2)]
SOLUTION
Let the test particle have a mass m. If released from distance RSch,
its total energy is zero, because the kinetic energy
½ mvesc2
exactly matches the absolute value of gravitational binding energy
-GMm/RSch. Substituting c for vesc we have
Consider CMBR as a gas of photons having Planck spectrum (today with temperature
T = 2.9 K, but much higher T in the early universe).
As the universe expands, the spacing between the photons increases and the spatial
number density n decreases. Show that n ~ R-3. Knowing that
the mean energy of a photon is equal hν = kT, where ν is photon's frequency,
and that energy density of photon gas (i.e. energy per unit volume)
is equal aT 4 (a is Stefan's constant), demonstrate that:
NO SOLUTION was provided in T6. You'll provide it as part of Problem Set #3!
The snapshots (left-center-right part)
shown below illustrate relationships between the above variables.
Formulae for spherically symmetric galaxies are useful beyond the exact
domain of application, since even somewhat flattened objects will not deviate
completely from those formulae.
Invoking Newtons Theorem 2 and proving Newton's Theorem 1,
we have assembled on the blackboard the general formula
for spherically symmetric potential at radius x
Φ(x) = -GM(x)/r + ∫0x r ρ(r) dr
Φ(x) =
(-4πG/x) ∫0x r2 ρ(r) dr
+(-4πG) ∫0x r ρ(r) dr.
BTW, this is one place in our course where we should clearly distinguish
r from x (the same meaning, radius) since x in this tutorial
means radius of the point of observation,
while r is a dummy integration variable running from 0 to x, or x to infinity.
On the rightmost blackboard, there is a tiny confusion of signs.
Can you spot it? It does not affect the result much (two terms of f cancel,
one has a wrong sign, the final -GM(x)/x^2 has the correct sign.)
f(x) = - dΦ(x)/dx = -GM(x)/r2.
We have used this equation in stellar structure equations.
Indeed one difference of what we do now and what we did earlier
in stellar stucture work is
that we pay more attention to explicit Φ(r) calculation, task also known
as potential-density pair calculation.
The second difference is that we previously de-emphasized the idea of
circular speed around a star.
One gets the circular rotation speed vc easily, by assuming that
gravitation in direction of the equatorial plane of the galaxy is balanced
by the centrifugal acceleration at distance R from the axis of rotation,
which in circular motion equals vc2/r
(you can derive that, but you won't be the first. Huyghens did it even
before Newton).
vc2(R) = GM(R)/R.
M(R) is total mass inside radius R. Remember that we deal with spherically
symmetric density distribution, so why do not use variable r?
The formula is written with R, the radial coordinate in cylindrical system
(R,φ,z), not with r (the 3-D radial coordinate in spherical coordinate system)
to emphasize that vc is only defined in z=0 plane;
it also does not depend on azimuthal angle φ
by assumption of galaxy being axisymmetric).
But you will also often see the speed written as
vc(r), which is not incorrect! When z=0, then r=R.
The conclusion is that radial velocity curve can be obtained directly
from &rho(r); by doing one radial integral, to find M(r).
Use that direct relationship when asked about vc.
∇2Φ = 4πGρ
We will use it later, just a note on the basics of nabla squared, also known
as div grad, also known as Laplace operator.
Correction: I have actually erred in giving you the diameter of the cluster,
instead of core *radius*, which is R = 8 kpc.
Then we'd get a bit more vigorous motions, shorter crossing time equal 12.6
Myr etc. Relaxation would still take 70 crossing times, but would
evaluate to a smaller time
On the other hand, something else could work to dissolve this open cluster.
It would be premature to conclude that Pleiades will keep together
for another billion years or so, since we haven't yet considered
the influence of galactic force field (tidal interaction) on the cluster.
In fact, astronomrs thing the cluster will be dessolved in 250 Myr.
SOLUTION
First, find mass inside radius r:
M(r) = 4π ∫ r2 ρ(r) dr
M(r) ~ [1/(α+3)] r3+α,
Force law is F(r) ~ GM(r)/r2 ~ r1+α,
Evidently, a flat rotation curve requires α=-2, an unrealistic object of
infinite extent and mass, known as singular isothermal sphere.
But over a finite range of radii it is a decent approximation to real objects,
such as dark haloes.
Observations of NGC 6503 show velocities vc = {120, 115} km/s at radii
r = {4, 20} kpc, correspondingly.
The visible components of the galaxy: stars and gas, contribute the following
amounts to the rotation curve (values it would have if the medium was the only
one present, all in km/s): {88,40} and {15,25} km/s.
A. Derive the contribution to velocity curve at those two radii from Dark Matter
(DM).
SOLUTION
If nothing else but one type of medium causes gravity (forces of gravity
can be arithmetically added/superposed so they can be considered separately),
then
Numerically, dark matter contributes {80,100} km/s at 4 and 20 kpc,
correspondingly.
Now we can model the dark halo, and from the two data points
derive the two free parameters of the model:
Comment 1: this type of functional aproximation is providing the
halo with constant density inner region (core). At large radii,
the density law becomes the same as in the singular isothermal sphere,
thus assuring an asymptotically constant rotation curve.
SOLUTION
From the drawing (see lecture 23) of light emitted straight at us and after time
Δt by a blob of jet material moving at physical speed V < c,
observed speed = observed transverse distance/observed time difference
Transverse distance is equal V Δt sin θ. Because
material moved in time Δt by Δx = V Δt cos θ
in our direction, the time between the detection of the two pictured photons
is equal
Vobs = V sin θ / (1 - V cos θ)
You can prove the facts stated on the margin of the picture, in partcular that
superluminal speeds are observed only when V > √2 c.
To do this, you first need to treat the jet speed V as constant, and
derive the maximum observed speed at any angle (by calculus).
Then you just need to show that Vobs > c if and only if
V > c / √2. Have fun.
Pictures of the blackboard with your work. Thanks Ming!
Pic1 ,
Pic2 .
Pictures of the blackboard:
Pic3 ,
Pic4 ,
Pic5 .
Notice that I only sketched the rosettes in the constant speed region.
Near the center of a galaxy, where solid body rotation of stars takes place
(Ω = const.), we have κ = 2 Ω. This means there are two
full radial oscillations in one azimuthal period. The orbit closes on itself
and is an ellipse, with galaxy center in the symmetry center (not the
focal point) of the ellipse. In other words, there is a big precession
amounting to the maximum radius point travelling backward exactly
180 degrees in one full radial period.
1. Given the observed speeds, how many Schwarzschild radii Rs
away from the black hole is the radius R?
2. What is the mass M inside the radius R?
3. Could this be a cluster of sun-like stars and not a SMBH?
4. Is the observation described above plausible, given that the resolution
of the largest interferometers spanning the whole Earth is given
by the diffraction limit θ ≈ λ/D (D = diameter of antenna or
mirror, λ ~ 0.6 m is the wavelength of EM radiation used)?
In other words, can we resolve a region of half-width 0.06 pc, at the distance
of 6 Mpc from us?
SOLUTION OUTLINE
1. Think about the maximum speed a particle (star) can have at distance
R from SMBH: it's the escape speed, equal to (2GM/R)1/2.
Objects with higher speeds would have left the surroundings of a SMBH already.
Making that equal to vobs = c/30, we get
2. From (2GM/R)1/2 = c/30, it follows that
M = c2R/(1800 G).
Another, simpler way to evaluate M is by recalling that the sun's Rs
is 3 km and, in general, Rs = 3km (M/Msun).
Then we have from pt. 1:
3. This is an interesting question that requires some work. First,
one could check that, yes, there is a space within a ball of radius
0.06pc, for a billion volumes of the sun. The real question is, however,
how long could such a cluster survive? To compute the nean time between
physical collisions of the stars, one could derive an optical
density of the cluster: the sum of stellar cross sections divided by the
cros secitional area of the cluster. That is a measure of the probabilty
of a given star striking some other star as it moves through the cluster
once. It turns out that this calculation shows a rather short collisional
destruction time, much shorter than the likely old age of the active
galactic nucleus of the faraway galaxy. Compute the optical thickness
and the crossing time, and do the calculation of collisional time scale!
You should see why the object can be a stellar cluster for a very short
period of time.
4. This is a typical question in observational astronomy.
θ ≈ λ/D > (0.6m/6000km) rad = 10-7 radians,
because the largest D on Earth is of order 6000km. At a distance of
6 Mpc, this minimum angle spans a transverse distance of 0.6 pc.
Ans: No, a diameter of 2*0.06 pc = 0.12 pc cannot be resolved with the
largest interferometers on Earth at 6 Mpc distance from us. It's about
5 times too small.
SOLUTION
First, let us establish the function describing the galactic forces
and centrifugal force. We'll be talking about accelerations corresponding
the these forces (they differ from forces by a constant factor m, which is not
worth repeating.)
In a given rotation curve vc(r), gravity matches the
required centrifugal force at every radius r . For instance,
in a flat rotation curve where vc is constant,
acceleration of galactic gravity is equal
The crucial idea in this problem is to choose a frame
of reference corotating with the mass m. That is, we are going into
a noninertial frame that has a rigid body rotation with linear speed
vc at radius R and angular speed everywhere equal
Ω = vc/R. Then depending on location r in the rotating
frame there is a ficticious centrifugal force (acceleration):
fcen = +Ω2 r = +(vc/R)2 r.
The sum of the two accelerations equals
f = -vc2/r + (vc/R)2 r =
(vc2/R) [r/R - R/r].
We can easily check by substituting r=R that at the orbit of mass m
the sum f(R) = 0, allowing mass m to be stationary in the chosen
reference frame.
Let's now expand f(r) up to linear order around r=R, by writing
f ≈ (vc2/R) [ 1 + x/R -1 +x/R]
+2(vc/R)2 rt - Gm/rt2 = 0.
Solving for tidal radius, we obtain two alternative expressions,
one directly following from the above and one substituting
vc2 = GM(R)/R,
rt = R (Gm/2Rvc2)1/3 =
R [(1/2) m/M(R)]1/3.
SOLUTION
In our Galaxy at about 10 kpc we can assume vc = 220 km/s.
At current distance, tidal radius of M15 is
rt = R (Gm/2 R vc2)1/3 =
135 pc = 5 rM15.
Currently the tidal radius is 5 times larger than the mean radius of the
cluster, so the cluster's stars are safely attached to it.
(The actual rule of thumb is that a star is on a stable orbit and won't
escape if it is within 1/4 of the tidal radius, the stability is precarious
or non-existent between 1/4 and 1 tidal radius).
But even a moderate decrease of distance R from 10 kpc to 5 kpc from the center
(which is quite possible: M15 travels on an elongated orbit, it's in the
halo) could make the physical radius about 1/2 of the tidal radius.
That would likely result in a dissolution of M15 in the Galaxy, since the loss of
stars would tend to decrease m, shrink rt (cf. the formula),
and further accelerate the escape of stars. A vicious circle!
Consider a halo of dark matter inferred from a rotation curve of a typical
disk galaxy, for instance NGC 7331.
It has a large core radius, say, Rc ~ 10 kpc.
The total mass within that core is Mc ~ 1011 Msun
or slightly more.
Is the DM in such galaxies a CDM or HDM? Use the virial relation between mass,
radius and speed. Obtain an order-of-magnitude estimate of velocity dispersion
σ in the core of the halo of DM particles.
SOLUTION
The DM in galaxies is CDM. We can prove it by setting up virial relationship for
the velocity dispersion σ in a system of DM particlessubject to their own
gravitation. We will skip factors of order unity, and provide an order-of-magnitude
estimate.
(λ0=656 nm
is the wavelength of red hydrogen emission line (H
This may be re-written as
λ = λ0 / (1 - RSch/R),
where RSch = 2GM/c2 = 3 km (M/Msun)
[see next problem below].
Since λ0 = 656 nm,
λ ={656.003, 656.197, 1443} nm for stars 1..3.
□ The 1st star, our sun, shows extremely small increase of
wavelength by a factor 1.0000043 which, however, is detectable with the most
modern spectroscopes with resolving power 10-6.
□ The 2nd, a white dwarf star, has a shift of wavelength equal to
0.197 nm = 1.97 Å
(relative to λ0 = 656 nm, the observed λ is
1.0003 times longer. That's easily detectable today, and was detectable
even 100+ years ago.
□ The 3rd, a neutron star (NS), has huge wavelength shift from
656 nm to 1483 nm, placing the light in the invisible infrared range.
The wavelength is 2.2 times longer than the emitted one.
NS is an extremely small and dense object, almost a black hole (BH).
If it could be shrunk by a factor of 4 in size, it would in fact become one.
Therefore, light loses most of its energy while climbing out of the
deep gravitational potential well of NS and departing to infinity.
Light emitted from the surface of a BH has according to the gravitational
redshift formula an infinite wavelength. That's correct because then
uses all its initial energy to climb out of the potential well. Zero energy
corresponds to infinite wavelength (E = hν = hc/λ).
Tutorial Problem 2. Gravitational radius, a.k.a. Schwarzschild radius
At what distance RSch from a point mass M does the escape
speed equal c (speed of light in vacuum)? Use Newtonian mechanics of a test particle.
RSch = 2GM/c2 = 3 km (M/Msun).
The radius is a black hole horizon radius of a non-rotating black hole, or
the Schwarzschild radius. It is named after Jewish-German scientist Karl
Schwarzschild [pron.: shwarts-shild, literal English transl.: Blackshield],
who found an exact solution of the fresh-from-the-press Einstein's equations
and thus solving the structure of a non-rotating BH, in the trenches of the
Russian front of World War I, then died of autoimmune desease he developed
there.
The CMBR problem
The so-called Big Bang, a very hot and dense phase of the infancy of our Universe,
left a sea of photons we still detect today. It is part of the static noise on
old TV screens (CRT tubes) that show 'snow' when the tv box does not catch any
tv station. Right now the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation
has about 1 mm wavelengths, but when the universe's scaling factor R was much smaller
than now (R is a distance between some pair of very distant objects, R increases in time
because the underlying space expands).
(i) n ~ T3
(ii) T ~ 1/R
(iii) mean wavelength λ = c/ν scales like λ ~ R.
Thus the wavelength of CMBR photons grows in step with the scaling factor R,
as if the photon's wave was somehow pinned at the ends to the expanding space.
It isn't, but you will prove that λ grows in step with the vacuum of
the universe.
TUTORIAL 8 (16 Nov)
Relationships between basic quantities in a galaxy
A galaxy has so many stars that it's like a fluid. To describe its density
distribution in space (independent variable will be 3-d position vector r in
appropriate coordinates best reflecting the symmetries of a galaxy),
its gravitational field, etc., we typically use the following quantities:
spatial density ρ(r),
graviatational potential Φ(r); remember it is Φ=U/m, gravitational
potential energy per unit mass of test particle such as a star,
f = "force" field, but again divided by test particle mass m, so really
an acceleration,
vc = circular speed; diagram vc(R) is called rotation
curve of a galaxy. It's often an observable quantity, if we use Dopppler speed
measurements. Notice that rotation curve is only defined for orbits
lying in the equatorial plane af an axisymmetric system, e.g. in the midplane
of a round, flattened, galactic disk.
[where M(r) is total mass inside radius x], or
How to compute the velocity curve of a disk galaxy
You have shown that there is a simpler, familiar,
relation for the acceleration field f, in general written as
a gradient of specific potential f = -∇Φ
(general in the sense of axisymmetric or non-axisymmetric systems).
In axisymmetric galaxies,
Poisson equation
The final equation written in the center of the blackboard is the so called
Poisson equation
∇2 = div grad = ∇·∇,
where the central dot has a special meaning and belongs to the left-hand nabla
operator.
∇2 takes a scalar field such a Φ and performs
two spatial differentiations, first a gradient ∇Φ
then a divergence on that gradient, so the result again is a scalar field.
In Cartesian coordinates, ∇Φ(x,y,z) = (∂Φ/∂x,
∂Φ/∂y, ∂Φ/∂z), a vector field. Divergence
∇·A is defined for vector field A as
∇·A(x,y,z) = ∂A/∂x
+ ∂A/∂y + ∂A/∂z. Therefore in Cartesian coordinates,
∇2Φ = ∇·∇Φ =
∂2Φ/∂x2
+ ∂2Φ/∂y2 +
∂2Φ/∂z2.
In curvelinear coordinate systems (cylindrical, spherical)
the expression looks a little more complicated
than just the sum of all second derivatives along the n dimensions.
(See the link below, last four pages).
The above equation is useful, it makes computation
of unknown ρ from known Φ rather automatic (we can always do
derivatives analytically, there's an algorithm for it;
integrals - only when we are lucky).
Lecture notes (listed on course web page) gives much more detail. Look there!
Notice that the designations of x and r for radial distance are swapped there in
the formula for Φ on the last page.
Indeed, it is more common to name observation point r, and
integration variable something else.
Anybody can use the symbols they like, the best is when they
are clearly defined and suggestive of being a distance.
TUTORIAL 9 (23 Nov)
Relaxation in Pleiades
Given M and R of the cluster (on blackboard) compute the relaxation
time in years (minimum timescale for
restructuring of stellar system due to binary collisions/deflections).
The formula for tcross has correct units. The value
for R = 17.5/3.26 pc, is
tcross ≈ (0.206e6*17.5/3.26)^1.5/800.^0.5 ≈
41 Myr.
It's so long, because there are relatively few stars,
and the cluster size is rather large, hence the mean velocity is low.
This formula with N = 3000 gives relaxation time
trlx ≈ 70 tcross ≈ 2.8 Gyr.
That's much longer than the current age of the cluster, ~100 Myr.
This result seems to support a long future life for M45.
trlx ≈ 0.9 Gyr.
Same conclusion, though. Relaxation has not happened in Pleiades yet.
Problem 2. Which power-law of density vs. radius produces a
flat rotation curve?
Assume ρ(r) ~ rα in a spherically symmetric stellar system.
What is the force law and rotation curve then?
Which α results in vc = const.?
unless α = 3 (special value of integral, which is not power-law, it's a
logarithm if α = 3. Let's skip that case.).
and the velocity curve satisfies
vc2 ~ F(r) r ~ r2+α.
Problem 3. Dark halo of NGC 6503
vc,i2 = G Mi(R)
where index i assumes the value {*, gas, DM, total (all densities superposed)}.
Summing the masses we see that
vc,tot2 = vc,*2
+ vc,gas2 + vc,DM2.
i.e. the circular velocities sum up quadratically.
Therefore,
vc,DM2 = vc,tot2
- (vc,*2 + vc,gas2).
ρ(r) = ρ / (1 + r2/r02)
It's left as an exercise for you...
Comment 2: When you know core size and density, you can find the
mean speed of the particles making it, and the density at any point in space
out to infinity. The speed is particularly important since
non-relativistic speed case is the successful CDM model (Cold Darm Matter),
while ultra-relativistic particles would make up a Hot Darm Matter object,
but do not fiollow from calclulations. Can you compute the typial speed?
If yes, you'll know quite a bit about the otherwise unknown particles making up
the Dark Matter Halos (mot only the spatial distribution but kinematics as well).
TUTORIAL 10 (30 Nov)
Problem 10.1: Apparent superluminal motions in AGN jets
Active galactic nuclei play a trick on us, if our line of sight is near the
axis of a sufficiently fast jet. The apparent motion of knots in jets is faster
than light. How and when is that possible?
(c Δt - Δx)/ c = Δt [1 - (V/c) cos θ].
Problem 10.2: Review the solutions to set #3 of assignments
Solutions, PDF file
Problem 10.3: SMBH in a faraway galaxy
A SMBH is suspected to reside in a galaxy at a distance of 6 Mpc.
Observations with Earth-sized interferometers show that near the center of the
galaxy, within the distance of R = 0.06 pc from the center, there is some mass
accelerating the motion of stars and gas to speeds nearly 1/30 the speed of light
(i.e. 10000 km/s).
R = 2GM/(c2/900) = 900 Rs.
R = 2700 km (M/Msun).
M = (R/2700km) Msun = (0.06 pc/2700 km) Msun =
(3.09e13 km * 0.06/2700 km) Msun ~ 6.6e8 Msun .
The suspected SMBH is almost a billion solar masses.
Problem 10.4: Tidal radius in a flat rotation curve.
An object of mass m is on a circular trajectory in the plane of the galaxy.
You can assume the galax's gravity is dominated by a spherical
dark halo. Galaxy has a flat rotation curve.
Derive the expression for its tidal radius rt
(distance at which the sum of
tidal force of gravity + centrifugal force equals the attraction by mass m.)
fg(r) = -vc2/r ~ -1/r.
r = R + x, |x| ≪ R.
f ≈ +2(vc/R)2 x.
This differential acceleration is called tidal acceleration. At tidal
radius (distance x = rt away from mass m),
it is exactly cancelled by the attraction of mass m,
-Gm/x2:
Tidal radius of M15
Apply the tidal radius formula to M15, an old globular cluster in Milky Way,
with mass m = 5.5e5 Msun, and radius rM15 = 27 pc,
located at R = 10 kpc from Galactic center. How much larger is the tidal
radius than cluster radius today? At what galactocentric radius would
M15's radius exceed 1/4 of the the tidal radius
(at which point M15 would start losing a lot of stars, making the tidal radius
even smaller and the loss unstoppable)?
Problem 10.5. Hot or cold dark matter?
Dark matter (DM) is the matter only interacting via gravity,
not a normal (barionic) matter.
That is, undetectably faint stars and such things as unseen dark
bodies (brown dwarfs etc.) made of usual atoms do not
fall under that rubric.
There are two types of DM. Hot dark matter (HDM) is made of particles moving (ultra)relativistically, that is at the speed close to the speed of light in vacuum.
Cold dark matter (CDM) is DM moving at low, non-relativistic speeds.
σ2 ~ G Mc /Rc
This gives σ ~ 250 km/s, which is very non-relativistic
(σ ~ c/1000).
BTW, the same order of magnitude as Vc, the circular speed in disk
galaxies. This is not a coincidence. DM halos are more massive than luminous
parts of galaxies and so dominate the rotation curve in the outer parts of
galaxies (DM halo radii are larger than luminous matter part). There, DM,
barions and fermions all move at similar speeds, even if not necessarily
on orbits of the same shape. In the inner parts (a few kpc), however, normal
matter may dominate the density and rotation,
although there are some examples of galaxies whose rotation
everywhere is governed by DM. But as long there are no collisions or
any interactions between the 2 types of particles and they contribute
similarly to total rotation curve (and mass density), one and the same
quantity determines how fast both are moving around the galaxy:
the depth of its combined gravitational potential well.
The speeds should therefore be similar.